PingCap TiDB Leaks

First the Google Cloud outage [0], then the CA private key leak [1]... ...and now this... > Today we are making the PingCAP breach public. We possess the complete TiDB Cloud control plane, its billing and finance estate, its GCP storage estate and its AWS cost and billing estate, its Jira, its CRM, its analytics, its source code, and a four-year log of every connection every customer ever made to its product, from the IP addresses of their application servers. This is an entire leak of ALL PingCap TiDB's customers AND data. All of this in a single day. It is over. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50163961 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50166579

• gregwebs · 20 hours ago

  I am reading this as a leak of every possible piece of metadata but not an actual leak of customer data. They have SQL logs which do contain customer data and there is a mention of some snapshots/imports.

  • hdjdnxjzhzhs · 19 hours ago

    How the fuck is 10.6TB metadata?

    • binsquare · 19 hours ago

      Easily at scale Size is not a good indicator for content quality

    • gregwebs · 18 hours ago

      TiDB is for large scale data. You generally wouldn't use it unless you have at least 1TB of data. 10TB is a single small customer database for them.

    • fock · 8 hours ago

      (POV when storing 1PB in Oracle) when I saw the 10 TB in another post, I was like "wait, isn't this sold to scale out, we have 100 times the data here".

  • berenddeboer · 2 hours ago

    they leaked full connection strings for customer databases with users and passwords.

• qingcharles · 19 hours ago

  Don't forget the PHP megabomb dropping in a few hours too.

AWS private rates gives PingCAP ~47% off list price. Wonder which services got the biggest discounts? Unsurprisingly for a db company the cross-az traffic is 15% of their bill.

what is happening today and how are people not talking about this more

• dilyevsky · 17 hours ago

  only the beginning. next year or two are going to be wild on this front so buckle up...

If true, this is next level incompetence from PingCap. Apparently the attackers set up a replication pipeline for a month?! > We even stood up a replication feed of their own control-plane database using credentials committed in their own repositories — GCP service-account keys and an Azure service principal — and let their infrastructure deliver it to us. Every six hours, for the last twenty-two days of the campaign, from 8 September to 30 September, that pipeline faithfully re-exported every table of the operational heart of TiDB Cloud — tenants, users, API keys, cluster credentials, changefeeds, migrations — and pushed it out.

Man I recently executed a migration from Aurora to Planetscale. I seriously considered PingCap but decided against it because I thought they cloud pricing was too complex. I wonder if my personal information is in the leak.

https://www.moxfive.com/blog/who-is-fulcrumsec-inside-the-cl...

Coming this close on the heels of the security audit by NCC [1] is pretty embarassing for all parties. [1] https://www.pingcap.com/press-release/tidb-ncc-group-securit...

• kobieps · 7 hours ago

  From personal experience having worked with multiple "enterprise-grade" pentest vendors (including NCC), I think the entire pentest industry is overdue for a big shake-up.

• hintymad · 6 hours ago

  > TiDB, the open-source distributed SQL database powered by PingCAP, today published the results of a rigorous source-code security assessment by NCC Group, one of the world’s leading cybersecurity consultancies. It looks like you can assess the hell out of your source code, but your system can still leak if you don't secure your operations.

> Summary: "The root password of the cluster can be reset unconditionally" But what matters is that it was all memory safe and had no data races.

• boorbat · 10 hours ago

  You realize it's written in Go right?

  • wannabe44 · 9 hours ago

    Not even data race safe then. NGMI.

It's written in Rust, so it's safe.

• boorbat · 10 hours ago

  https://github.com/pingcap/tidb reports as 95% Go with no Rust at all?

  • squirrellous · 10 hours ago

    That confused me too since I remember reading they are Rust proponents. Apparently their storage engine TiKV is written in Rust, and TiDB is the database built on top.